Well, to use the words of the current President, its when all the Leadership of the Arizona Republican Party schedule a meeting to promote the Trump "Election Win" outcome that didn't happen. So, we look to what a Dean Martin movie character once said about playing in a card game: "when you don't have the winning hand, the best thing to do is to kick over the table." President Trump, being truthful and scrupulously honest is trying to do exactly that. What he is insisting from States with Republican-controlled legislatures in States he lost, is that they ignore the popular vote and order their (Electoral College) electors to cast their votes for him. In this, he is once again proving himself the lying, unscrupulous cheat that he is, and we can only hope that those in attendance have the wisdom to refuse. That is all except the "Three Stooges" team of Gospar, Briggs, and Lesko---today's version of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe. They have their noses stuck so far up the President's anal passage that everything smells the same, and they have long shed their moral codes.